HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - BoS - 09/28/2010 Minutes—Board of Selectmen September 28, 2010
Selectmen Present: Karen Quigley, Chairman
Edwin G. Carr,
Frederick Koed
Paul Carlson
Selectman Absent: Leland H.Jenkins
Others Present: William R. Griffin,Town Manager
Jennifer Brennan Oram, Selectmen's Clerk
Chairman Karen Quigley called the meeting to order at 7:OOPM
Town Manager's Report—Sheila Conner of the Hull Conservation Commission addressed the Board and
asked for the Board's support to name the newly constructed Tide Gates at the William McNamara
Bridge at West Corner after Lawry Reid. Mr. Reid is the founder and past president of the Straits Pond
Watershed Association. In her letter, Ms. Connor read that "through Reid's efforts as president of the
Association, the replacement and enlargement of the severely deteriorated culvert and tide gates
moved forward". She added that due to the new gates,there have been significant improvements to a
"critically impaired coastal pond". After a brief discussion, Selectman Paul Carlson moved to approve
the naming of the Tide Gates after Lawry Reid. Selectman Frederick Koed seconded the motion and
the vote was unanimous(4-0).
Town Manager, William Griffin, asked the Board to approve and sign a series of temporary and
permanent easements in the vicinity of Jacobs Meadow to allow the culvert work to begin. Selectman
Edwin Carr moved to approve and sign the temporary and permanent easements. Selectman Koed
seconded the motion and the vote was unanimous (4-0).
Mr. Griffin asked the Board to recommend the filed Citizens' Petition article to the Planning Board for
the Public Hearing process. The proposed article asks for a pool used for a business be allowed to be
constructed and used in a residential neighborhood. Selectman Carlson moved to forward the article
to the Planning Board for the public hearing process. Selectman Carr seconded the motion and the
vote was unanimous(4-0).
Selectmen Comment Period
Selectman Carlson suggested the Board look in to moving their meetings back to Tuesday evenings as
the parking at Town Hall is extremely difficult on Monday nights. The Board agreed this should be
discussed when the Interim Town Manager begins.
Selectman Carr brought attention to a piece of correspondence the Board received from Secretary of
the Commonwealth, William Francis Galvin. In the letter, Mr. Galvin alerted communities that with the
results of the 2010 census, any municipality with populations greater than 6,199 will be required to
redraw their local precinct lines, or"re-precincting" as it is called. In the letter, his office offers Towns
help with the process.
Selectman Koed asked about the letter from the residents on Cedar Acres Lane about resurfacing their
street. Mr. Griffin stated that the letter had been sent to Town Counsel for review. He stated that it
could be the case that Town funds cannot be used to resurface the road as it is a private way.
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Licenses& Permits—Selectman Carr moved to approve a one-day liquor license for a wedding
reception being held at the Second Congregational Church located at 43 Highland Avenue. The license
is for a cash,full bar from 5PM-10PM on November 20,2010. Selectman Carlson seconded the motion
and the vote was unanimous(4-0).
Update on Treat's Pond Pipe Inspection & Discussion on the Town's Rights and Obligations under the
Bigelow Easement.
Chairman Quigley stated that she felt it was important to bring this issue forward. She stated they are
now one year into the agreement; an agreement which took two years to come to. Chairman Quigley
felt the Board should have a conversation about what the Board is allowed to do,what rights the
document gives the Board and allows the Board to live up to. Attorney Lou Ross of Town Counsel's
office joined the Board for the discussion. Attorney Ross stated that the easement is in "two parts".
The easement that was granted to the Town (the Bigelow Easement) is a Conservation Easement which
gives the Town the right to enforce the conservation of the pond. The Town has the right to enter these
properties to clean up the pond, but it's not clear that the Town has the obligation to do that. He sited
for example, if it were proposed that the property be used for anything else [other than conservation]
the Town may have an obligation to stop that. He stated that the Town's rights and obligations are
spelled out very vaguely in the easement. Chairman Quigley asked that where the easement says
'preserve the Marsh Pond in its natural state', should the Town be preventing the growth of invasive
plant species. Attorney Ross stated that when you have an instrument [an easement] like this, you have
to try and determine what the parties intended and there are various interpretations; arguably it could
have been to maintain the pond, weed out the species etc., but it's all subject to interpretation. He
stated that the Town does have the right to go to Land Court and determine what the scope of the
Town's obligations are. Selectman Carr asked what the existing license between the Town and the
abutters of the easement allows the Town to do. Attorney Ross stated it is a very limited agreement
and that it basically allows the Town to dig out the pipe; it's a short term solution to a life long problem.
He added that if a solution is not found, then another Board down the road will have to deal with the
license when this one expires. He stated that there is not a lot in the law that holds what people have to
do. Selectman Carlson asked if easements had to be reviewed every twenty five years.Attorney Ross
said they did not. Selectmen Koed asked if the Board could get an update on the pipe and the camera
that was sent down it. Mr. Griffin stated that the contractor the Town hired did get down the pipe with
a camera but that it could only get down part way, he said it appeared the pipe is a 16"wide pipe.
Chairman Quigley stated that with the camera now going down the pipe,they do not know anything
more about where the pipe presently lays. She stated she is not sure if they can maintain the pond
without an outfall pipe. After a brief discussion, Chairman Quigley asked what the sense of the Board
would be; do they want to look in to going to Land Court or would it rather do nothing. She stated she
would be loathe not to do anything and leave it for another Board to deal with. Attorney Ross asked the
Board that if they were to discuss going to Land Court,would they like to move into Executive Session.
Selectman Koed stated they need to discuss what they want to consider doing. Should the Board walk
away or consider fixing the pipe to help deal with the run off on the street. Chairman Quigley stated
that the run off is a stormwater issue. Selectman Koed stated that the Board could still make a
recommendation. Chairman Quigley stated that at this point, she is not concerned about which side of
the issue [Treats Pond] people stand; she wants to deal with the reality of the issue. She is also
wondering if the pond is protected by the Conservation Commission and the Wetlands Protection Act
does that obligate the Town to maintain the pond or if it private property would it be up to the owners
to protect it. The Chairman then opened the subject up to discussion from the audience. Mr. Peter
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Whittemore of 47 Elm Court stated that had spoken to Dr. Ed Woods who helped negotiate the Bigelow
easement. He then addressed the size of the pipe stating that if the pipe could be restored to its 24 inch
permitted size he feels it would serve everyone well. Mr. Eli Manchester of 83 Atlantic Avenue stated
that he has watched the Board debate this issue for a long time and does not know how it can make a
decision until they get a complete cost and engineering data. He feels there are many alternatives and
things to consider. Chairman Quigley stated that she is trying to separate out the two issues of
stormwater and what the Town's obligations and rights are with the easement. She would like to see
the Town resolve what its legal liabilities are and once that is determined, then the Board will know
what to do with the pond. Attorney Ross stated that the Town is not obligated to solve stormwater
issues on private property,that being said,the Town is trying to do something [by addressing the
language in the easement] Mr. Amory Houghton of 91 Atlantic Avenue stated that since the two roads
were built near his property his property has flooded and that he feels the Town has some
responsibility. Chairman Quigley stated that the Board is sympathetic and that his situation although
unfortunate is not unique. She stated that the purpose of the discussion this evening is to decide what
the Board would like to do in regard to the easement, but it seems to her that the sentiment this
evening amongst the Board is to do nothing. Selectman Koed stated that he sees that there are two
issues;go to Town Meeting to get approval for a land taking or to go to Land Court to get a definition of
what the Town has the right to do with the pipe. If the Town votes no,then we know where we stand.
Selectman Carlson stated that he has an issue with taking property without scientific evidence showing
that it's the best option. Selectman Koed stated that he does not think the Town would have built
something that did not work and that he feels the pipe needs to be extended. Mr. Charles Higginson of
159 Atlantic Avenue stated that when the pipe is dug out it works well and that he has pipe on his end of
the beach that works very well. He stated that like lawyers,Engineers can disagree on the same issues.
Selectman Carlson stated that he would like to see some evidence. Chairman Quigley stated that once
again the discussion has gone to stormwater and that she is trying to discuss the Town's responsibility
and legal rights to the pond and if the Town wants to continue to be encumbered by this legal document
(the easement) She stated that the Town has the responsibility to maintain it's structures and that
monies were appropriated in the past for this pipe, which she seems then it is reasonable to feel that
the Town should have a legal right to access and maintain the pipe. If the Town is going to be held liable
for flooding, then they should be allowed access to do so as it would not be fair to it accountable for
flooding otherwise.
Attorney Virginia Brophy—Access Easement to Bear Hill Water Tank—Attorney Virginia Brophy of 16
Beechwood Street addressed the Board. She stated that Town Counsel had advised her that the best
venue for expressing what she is bringing to the Board tonight would actually be a Water Department
meeting, however, she stated that this evening she is not speaking as an Attorney, but is before the
Board speaking as a private citizen of Cohasset. Ms. Brophy sent her concerns to Town Counsel's office
and Attorney Lou Ross rendered an opinion. Attorney Lou Ross of Town Counsel's Office sat before the
Board on this discussion to defend his position. Ms. Brophy feels that the Water Department acted
beyond its authority when it reduced their existing 100 Pleasant Street easement from 30' to 12'. She
feels that because the easement was reduced below 50%of it's original width, the reduction constitutes
an abandonment of the easement. She cited Morey v. Martha's Vineyard to support her case. Attorney
Ross then addressed the Board and stated that much of this issue does come down to whether the
moving of the easement was abandonment or relocation. Attorney Ross stated that when an easement
is acquired the entity that obtains the easement is given a right to use someone else's property; it's not
an exclusive use. He added that the Commissioner's made a determination after the landowner asked
them to move the easement to reduce it to 12'. There was then a brief discussion between Attorney
Ross and Ms. Brophy about legislative acts. Attorney Ross stated that Ms. Brophy is assuming that the
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easement was abandoned however the Commission still holds a 12' easement and that the use of it is
not lessened because it is not as wide. After further discussion, Attorney Ross stated that the
Commissioners have retained all of their rights they had with the original easement, but have changed
location. He stated the entire discussion comes down to the characterization of the easement.
Chairman Quigley asked that when a Commission makes a decision that turns out to be problematic, if
there is a remedy. Attorney Ross stated that the first step could be to ask the developer if there is any
land available to widen the easement. Selectman Carr stated that he would like to confirm that this is a
Water Department issue. Chairman Quigley stated that she thought the discussion could help with the
thought process in regard to the easement. She then opened up the discussion to the audience. Mr.
Thomas Ogrodnik of 55 Reservoir Road stated that he took issue with the fact that the Water
Department would enter into an agreement{to relocated the easement] without knowing where the
houses were going to be built. He stated that the Water Department has had large trucks go up the
easement in the past to paint the tanks and do other maintenance. He feels they knew that large
equipment would need to get up to the tanks for any type of construction or work on the tank. Mr.
Michael Ronzoni of 50 Reservoir Road stated that this issue was visited by the Board back in 2008. At
that time the Water Commissioners were bringing the relocation to Town Meeting but then decided to
not pursue the article. He stated that he was a cynic and feels that somewhere along the line some sort
of agreement(between the Water Department and the contractor)was made. Mr. Ronzoni also
expressed concern about the pipes under the roadway of the easement stating they are made of
asbestos and the heavy trucks going up the road could damage them. Selectmen Koed stated that
Water Commissioner Glenn Pratt brought the issue of the pipes up when he was before the Board once
before. Selectmen Koed said the pipes are like that all over Town and that if there are issues they can be
addressed when the time comes. Mr. Ogrodnick then suggested that the cell towers being proposed
would be better placed at the Water Department located on King Street. He feels that the Commission
deciding to place the proposed towers on top of Bear Hill tank goes beyond their jurisdiction. Chairman
Quigley thanked everyone for their input.
Selectmen's Comment Continued
Selectman Koed then read a letter aloud from Mr.Arthur Lehr who stepped down from Emergency
Management. Selectman Koed expressed the Boards' appreciation for all of the years of service Mr.
Lehr has provided from the Town.
Selectman Carr moved to adjourn the meeting. Selectmen Koed seconded the motion and the vote
was unanimous(4-0). Meeting adjourned at 8:45PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Karen Quigley
Chairman
Documents:
-Letter from Sheila Connor of the Hull Conservation Commission re: naming the West Corner Tide Gates
after Lawry Reid.
-Opinion of Attorney Lou Ross of Town Counsel's Office, dated October 7, 2010.
-Morey v. Martha's Vineyard
-"Conveyance of Land or Abandonment of Easements; Procedures"
-Letter from Attorney Lou Ross of Deutsch/Williams to Virginia Brophy dated October 7, 2009.
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