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October 6,2010
COHASSET PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
DATE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 6,2010
TIME: 7:00 PM
PLACE: COHASSET TOWN HALL— BASEMENT MEETING ROOM
41 HIGHLAND AVENUE, COHASSET,MA 02025
Board Members Present: Alfred S. Moore,Jr., Chairman
Stuart W. Ivimey,Vice Chair
Jean Healey Dippold, Clerk
Clark H. Brewer
Charles A. Samuelson
William Hannon,Associate Member
Board Members Absent:
Recording Secretary Present: Jo-Ann M. Pilczak, Administrator
Meeting called to order at: 7:05
7:05 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENT (10 MINUTUES MAXIMUM)—No public comment
Assoc. Member Bill Hannon did have other suggestions for bringing activity to Cohasset—Drama Festival,Movie
Festival at Town Hall, Jazz Festival, Shakespeare Festivals. Smaller, focused use of Town Hall for festivals.
7:15 P.M. INFORMAL DISCUSSION, MATT SHANLEY, MANOR WAY CIRCLE—New owners Matt
Shanley and Rhonda Kallman and,Attorney Richard Henderson in attendance. Henderson noted that Ch. 81 § 81 W
provides the right to modify and amend an approved subdivision and that the Planning Board has the right to waive
the Subdivision Rules&Regulations if it is appropriate with respect to a proposed project. The new owners of this
property plan to substantially reduce former owner David Calhoun's approved subdivision plans. They plan to
reside in the existing house (former Flint estate) and build on only two other house lots and place the majority of
the land in a conservation restriction. This would require a modification that would allow: the reduction in the
number of lots; the creation of a hammerhead rather than a cul-de-sac; and, the involvement of a substantial
conservation restriction. Calhoun's subdivision started to the west of Cedarmere and the new owners would ask
that the Planning Board look at this project in two phases: first, just the development of the two proposed houses—
including the improvement of the old right of way for two houses only with the old right of way having the status of
a subdivision way as opposed to a common drive. Since this subdivision way will serve only two homes,the new
owner will ask for a waiver of some of the subdivision roadway requirements (but not to the point of being below
common driveway standards.); and, second, until such time as the Cedarmere land is developed by someone, the
new owner will ask that the Board allow the new owner to develop the subdivision way to common driveway
standards until such time as the Cedarmere land to the east is developed. Henderson gave opinion that the Planning
Board has the right to approve such modifications and waivers and that the new owner is before the Board with a
legally permissible plan. Shanley explained that he plans to eliminate the five lots and lot 6. He explained that the
previous owner cut down specimen trees, built a huge cul-de-sac and installed retention ponds which seem to have
created water issues on abutting land that did not have water issues prior to the cul-de-sac and retention ponds.
Shanley plans to remove the cul-de-sac, return the grade to its original state,remove the retention ponds and
install rain gardens instead and, work towards returning the landscape and plantings to the original natural state
that was a show piece. The entire site is a 15 acre parcel. Lot 6 is 9.7 acres of wooded and wet land which should
not be used for building and will have a conservation restriction placed on it so it can never be build upon. The two
houses will each be on 1.5+ acre lots. The new owner has the 100 Pond St. leaching field under agreement—all
the houses will have the right to use the common leaching field. The owner would like Castle Rd. to remain his
driveway. The two new houses will have Manor Way addresses. Overall,the Board informally agreed that a less
heavily engineered development to the site is a good approach and, an improvement to the existing approved plan.
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Member Moore advised that the new owners involve John Modzelewski and Town Counsel Rich Hucksam from
the very beginning so this moves along smoothly and,that they may have to visit conservation relative to the new
Stormwater Management bylaw.
7:30 P.M. 380/400 CJC HWY. (STOP& SHOP PLAZA) SITE PLAN REVIEW- CONT'D
DELIBERATION APPL: COHASSET ASSOCIATES. Filed on Dec.22,2009—In attendance for applicant:
Attorney Charles Humphreys. In attendance for Planning Board: Town Counsel Richard Hucksam; Town
Engineer John Modzelewski.
John Modzelewski summarized points he thought the Board should consider (following his October 6, 2010 memo
in Planning Board files):
1. ZONE A DELINEATION: Modzelewski noted that Merrill Associates indicated that the Water Dept. concurs
that this property is not in Zone A,but, Modzelewski noted that nothing to this effect had been submitted in
writing. Building Inspector Egan added that he defers to the Water Dept. and Norfolk Ram's determination that
the Zone A delineation is not of concern with this property. Member Moore agrees. Modzelewski noted that the
Board could condition that a letter must be received from the Water Dept.
2. INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE: Member Moore suggested that if the Planning Board approves
this filing with conditions,the Board is essentially saying it is alright to increase the impervious coverage which
is tacit to recommending to the ZBA that it should grant approval of the increase in coverage. Moore is
troubled by this and Modzelewski agreed with Moore's assessment that this is a tacit recommendation to the
ZBA. Member Healey Dippold agreed. Member Samuelson did not agree—he felt it is within the Planning
Board purview to approve with a condition that the applicant must obtain all other required approvals and
permits. Town Counsel suggested that if the Planning Board does not want to convey this suggestion to the
ZBA, it could clarify in the decision that Planning Board approval does not constitute a recommendation to other
Boards or, could condition that ZBA approval is required. Member Brewer noted that there are technical
solutions that could reduce the %impervious and he does not understand why the applicant didn't try to do
this to meet the impervious requirement. Town Counsel advised that the Board has to make its decision on the
criteria of the Site Plan Review bylaw and the fear of approval equaling a recommendation to the ZBA is not
part of the Site Plan bylaw approval. If the plan shows a straight out zoning violation,the plan could be denied
but this does not seem to be one of those situations. Humphreys noted that if the Board approves this plan,they
are finding that the system of drainage and collection of runoff water is consistent with required engineering
standards. The ZBA decides the special permit criteria which is a different review. If the applicant does not
receive the special permit from the ZBA,they will add some pervious. Humphreys noted that the applicant
stated early in the public hearings that they were at 59%and would be seeking relief and wished the Board had
addressed their concern in more detail earlier. Humphreys added that the Board could condition that the
applicant will have to reduce the impervious if they do not receive a special permit from the ZBA. Member
Ivimey is concerned with approving this with a violation of the bylaw—approval of a site plan should mean that
the site plan complies with the bylaw and it is inappropriate to list a condition that essentially says"but it
doesn't comply with the bylaw"—the function of conditions is to mitigate the adverse impact of a site plan that
complies with the site plan bylaws. Approving a site plan that the Board knows does not comply with the
bylaws essentially lets the ZBA make a change that will make a site plan comply with the bylaws—this is
tortured procedure. Member Samuelson asked—if the Board denies this application partially based on the
impervious issue, and the applicant receives relief from the ZBA, can the applicant reapply to the Planning
Board? Town Counsel advised that he would have to determine if repetitive petition applies or if the ZBA relief
could be grounds for appeal. Humphreys is concerned that it would not be a substantially different plan and
would therefore be considered a repetitive petition. Member Brewer believes this is a good project that uses
good quality design and materials, adds more retail space in a district where the Town wants retail,knits
together the two existing buildings that are not now connected. Member Healey Dippold agrees and believes
that conditioning that the applicant must reduce the impervious coverage to maintain the existing%impervious
if they do not receive relief from the ZBA protects the Town.
3. 24' WIDE AISLE IN VICINITY OF LOADING DOCK: Modzelewski explained that the plan the Board has
seen shows an 18'—20'wide aisle in the vicinity of the loading dock—Modzelewski wants 24' aisle width .
However,the applicant sent a plan to Modzelewski that shows the 27' aisle width suggested but this plan was
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not sent to the Board. Modzelewski suggested that the 24' aisle could be conditioned because the plan sent to
Modzelewski shows that the 24' aisle can be accomplished and would allow two-way traffic.
4. SEPTIC SYSTEM ABSORPTION SYSTEM(the 290 sq. ft.triangle of land in the 30'buffer): Modzelewski
stated that if the Board does not allow the encroachment into the 30'buffer, they do not kill the project—the
applicant can use other parts of the system—there are 4 other systems in reserve. Member Ivimey is
uncomfortable conditioning approval over a major issue and in approving a plan when the applicant has
expressed no intention to eliminate the encroachment. Member Brewer is uncomfortable with having
inconsistencies with a motion and with plan as submitted although it is a negotiation—applicant can either
abide by it or appeal. The encroachment was brought up at the first public hearing and every public hearing
since and,the applicant made a conscious decision to keep the encroachment. Member Healey Dippold remains
concerned about the 30'zone. She continues to believe the 30'zone should remain unused—including
subsurface use. However, it could be conditioned, identifying or suggesting the use of an identified reserve
systems not in the 30'zone. Humphreys commented that the reason they have been reluctant to change this is
because of the expensive engineering involved and because they do not believe locating the system in the 30'
buffer violates zoning. If the Planning Board puts a simple condition that no portion of the septic system be
built in the 30'zone, they put the decision to appeal or not appeal on that issue and that issue alone or, opt to use
one of the reserve fields. Member Moore asked if everyone was satisfied with the proposed plantings in the
buffer. Member Brewer believes it is a vast improvement over what was originally proposed. Member Healey
Dippold would prefer to see taller trees. Modzelewski noted that the way the Cook Estate has been graded to
the site is so high, the Cook Estate residents will be looking down on trees whether they are 8'tall or taller.
Moore thought taller trees might look better from Rt. 3A and the parking lot. Members Hannon and Samuelson
suggested that the bylaw does not say the Board should count trees µmanage what will be planted.
5. AC&NOISE: Modzelewski stated that this is not an issue in this day and age and DEP regulations protect
against noise issues.
MOTION: By Member Ivimey to deny this application based upon the fact that it does not comply with
zoning requirements regarding impervious surface and also fails to comply with bylaws concerning setback
requirements that are set forth in 5.4.9 and 5.4.10 for the 30' and 100' setbacks and, collateral to that,the
Board can't make a finding pursuant that the application complies with 12.6.2, subparagraphs,a-e.
SECOND: Not seconded
MOTION: by Member Brewer to approve the applicant's request for Site Plan approval with conditions:
1. 30' buffer is to be left unused and modifications made to the leaching field be performed at a later date
to accommodate that
2. Existing impervious area % is not to be increased through whatever means are reasonable
3. Pedestrian access to Sohier St. and between the 3 major buildings is to be designed and created.
4. Trees must be a minimum of 12' tall instead of the 8% 10' trees
5. Retaining wall fence is to be designed to meet all requirements of Mass. State building code and
reasonable safety considerations
6. Area between Sohier St. and the light signal at the Stop & Shop shall be altered so site lines make a
safer intersection
7. Signalization connected at Sohier St.to trip lights at the Stop & Shop intersection after X number of
seconds of waiting at Sohier St.
8. Additional loading area aisle width of 24' minimum be incorporated into final set of plans
SECOND: Jeanne Healey Dippold
MOTION: by Member Healey to amend Brewer's motion to allow wordsmithing to reflect suggested
changes to condition#1 above to clarify that no soil absorption system or mechanical systems are to be
installed in the 30'buffer zone.
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MOTION: by Member Samuelson to amend Brewer's motion to strike condition#1 above as,in his
opinion, the subsurface system does not meet the criteria for the definition of "use" or"building".
SECOND: Not seconded
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to add two conditions:
1. Standard language that no light shall be cast off-site from the new proposed building
2. Irrigation must be installed for all planting areas - worded so as not to be contrary to concept of
no use of the 30' buffer
SECOND: Member Brewer
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 4-1 (Samuelson opposed) MOTION CARRIES
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to amend Brewer's motion to include condition that this decision was based
on uses shown or implied by the plans and studies provided. Any change of use to more intensive uses shall
require approval of the Board
SECOND: Member Healey Dippold
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 5-0 MOTION CARRIES
MOTION: by_Member Healey Dippold to amend Brewer's motion by adding condition that the Board
should receive finalized approved erosion control plan and Stormwater Management Operation plans
SECOND: Member Ivimey
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 5-0 MOTION CARRIES
Add boiler plate conditions including that the applicant must obtain all other necessary approvals from
other Boards.
MOTION: by Member Healey Dippold to amend Brewer's motion to fence condition (#5 in original Brewer
motion)that a fence must be installed that meets the approval of the Board's Engineering Consultant.
SECOND: Member Brewer
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 5-0 MOTION CARRIES
MOTION: by Member Healey to amend Brewer's motion to include a condition that noise on site must
comply with DEP regulations
SECOND: Member Ivimey
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 4-1 (Samuelson opposed) MOTION CARRIES
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to amend Brewer's motion to include a condition regarding restricted hours
for emptying of dumpster using the condition contained in the decision for the 154/156 King St. approval for
the new Dunkin' Donuts/restaurant location.
SECOND: Member Brewer
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 4-1 (Samuelson abstained—not familiar with 154/156 King St. condition)
MOTION CARRIES
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to amend Brewer's motion to include all engineering conditions consistent
with the Board's Engineering Consultants suggestions made at previous meetings and review memos.
SECOND: Member Brewer
VOTE ON AMENDMENT: 5-0 MOTION CARRIES
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Discussion about whether Cook Estate concerns as presented by Richard Henderson 08/31/10 memo: "Objections
to Cohasset Place"and 04/06/10 memo "Restrictive Covenant" (existing,recorded covenant) should be
included/addressed in decision/conditions. General consensus: abutter should enforce restrictive covenant,not
Board.
VOTE ON MEMBER BREWER'S ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH ALL AMENDED
CONDITIONS: 4-1 (Ivimey opposed) MOTION CARRIES
Planning Board Administrator questioned whether Lighting Plan submitted after close of public hearing should be
included in public record — not to be included in public record.
10:00 P.M. ADMINISTRATION
• VOTE TO APPROVE SEPTEMBER 22, 2010 MEETING MINUTES
MOTION: By Member Brewer to approve September 22,2010 meeting minutes
SECOND: Member Ivimey
VOTE: 5—0 MOTION CARRIES
• SET NOVEMBER& DECEMBER MEETING DATES—Nov. 3; Tuesday,Nov. 16; Dec. 8 and Dec. 15.
• ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE TO LARGE HOME REVIEW APPLICATION MATERIALS—Board
would at least like to see floor plans at the meeting, although some members preferred to see them sooner.
Discussion included Board's preference to have the applicant submit PDF's as well so only PDF format is sent to
them rather than paper. Administrator to look into.
MOTION: By Member Brewer to adjourn at 10:15 P.M.
SECOND: Member Ivimey
VOTE: 5—0 MOTION CARRIES
NEXT REGULAR MEETING: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES APPROVED: JEAN HEALEY DIPPOLD
DATE: OCTOBER 20,2010