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Wednesday, April 14,2004
** DRAFT ** COHASSET PLANNING BOARD MINUTES ** DRAFT
DATE: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 2004
TIME: 7:00 PM
PLACE: COHASSET TOWN HALL—BASEMENT MEETING RM
41 HIGHLAND AVENUE, COHASSET, MA 02025
Board Members Present: Alfred S.Moore, Chairman
Peter J.Pratt,Vice Chairman
Stuart Ivimey,Clerk
Robert H. Sturdy
Michael Westcott
Board Members Absent:
Town Planner Present:
Recording Secretary Present: Jo-Ann M. Pilczak
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 7:10 PM
7:10 PM VILLAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS
Meeting very well attended by: Planning Board; Selectmen Koed,Dormitzer and Spofford; Contractors Wayne
Sawchuk, George McGoldrick, Jim Sandell,Dave Calhoun; Merchants Benjamin Watson, Tom Hamilton; and
approximately a dozen citizens.
Objective of this Special Meeting:
This meeting was called as a positive way of addressing the ever growing comments and concerns by Cohasset
residents about the potential outcome and efficiency of the Village Infrastructure and Streetscape Improvements. A
long list of individuals have expressed frustration that many recommendations have been made over the past year
that have not been incorporated into plans irrespective of the large amounts of state monies that have been spent.
The purpose of this meeting was not to find fault and point fingers but rather to better identify what the Town wants
the outcome of this project to be and to identify recommendations as to ways these plans can be modified and
improved to make the overall outcome of the project better. The ultimate outcome of the meeting was a list of
recommendations to the Board of Selectmen outlining concerns and suggestions for addressing those concerns. It
was the hope of those present that the recommendations resulting from this meeting will also be forwarded to The
Waterfield Design Group.
Selectmen Dormitzer gave an overview of the current status of project: The bid package has gone out to 3 bidders
for revitalizing the downtown village and is due back on April 30th- In very short time,there will be figures
associated with these plans. There is a drop dead date of May 30,2005 when all construction must be completed or
the grant will not be useable. Over the past few years,there have been revisions to the plans. However,many
people believe there are still revisions to be made which would substantially improve the project. Since this is a 50
year construction project, it would be best to do this project as well as possible with as much consensus as possible
so this project works for the whole town.
The evening progressed as an informal discussion open to all present.
Overview of major concerns(not in order of importance) addressed at this meeting:
In general, major concerns discussed during the meeting centered around eight major concepts:
• Overall design approach to the Village area as not being consistent with the very essence of the Cohasset
Village area
• When completed,the Village area, despite a large expenditure of money,will not really be improved
• The non-inclusion of several areas that are most needy of improvement
• The impact of the parking changes and elaborate phasing program will have a very negative impact on
merchants' businesses
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• Too few bids were received which may ultimately have reflected higher bids
• The project is not being approached efficiently to include utilities and future work the utilities could
accomplish while this project is in progress
• The lack of communication between Waterfield Design Group and the Town in this and other projects
• The lack of detailed, objective review by a certified engineering professional
Detailed comments addressing each area of concern:
1. Overall design approach
There is a major concern that this streetscape design is not going to result in a representation of the true essence
of Cohasset. There is a growing sense that people just want to have the Village area cleaned up,not changed:
• General concern that The Waterfield Design Group has not treated the"Town"as clients whose wishes and
suggestions should be listened to resulting in plans that are not the essence of"Cohasset."
• Comments indicate that residents do not want to modernize the downtown area to be the latest state of the
art design streetscape nor do they want the downtown an image of 18th Colonial Williamsburg.
• Generally speaking, the Village area is an historic New England downtown area that has evolved over the
years with the times. Any problems in the Village area exist because of the way the downtown was
originally laid out and it has evolved into the best way that you can handle the problems short of knocking
down buildings. It isn't great,but it works as best it can. Perhaps all the tinkering with parking etc. isn't
making it any better. As with the Central Historic District around the Common,there is a preference to
freeze the look and flavor of the Village area as it is today and just clean it up. HID lighting and the
proposed clock do not represent the essence of this village.
• One merchant expressed the opinion that the Village area should be a warm and inviting spot to visit and to
do business and that the current streetscape plans will result in the cold, sterile,uninviting place that
Scituate Harbor has become.
• The overall opinion that grinding up and repaving the street, adding new granite curbstones and using
some sort of paver rather then cement would significantly clean-up the Village,making it more pleasing
and inviting while maintaining the atmosphere of the Village as it has become today.
• Is it better not to do the job at all rather than do a bad job. There are many issues here that could be a
detriment to the Town and need to be thought through more thoroughly.
2. Overall all end result of the project:
There is a major concern that the outcome of this project, despite the expenditure of a large amount of money,
will not look any better than the down town area currently looks today:
• John Modzelewski's comment as an objective outsider that these"plain vanilla"plans are nothing special is
right on the mark.
• The project should be reworked to be done better with higher quality materials even if it means
eliminating parts of the project to stay within budget. Eliminated aspects of the project can be revisited in
the future when new/more funds are available.
• The use of cement instead of brick paving will contribute to the overall sterile look of the downtown and
will not result in a look much different than the Village area looks today. Although Town Meeting voted
not to have brick pavement in the Village area, the message from Town Meeting seems to have been that
they did not want to spend the money on brick,not that they did not want brick.
• The use of Black Rock Pavers installed over a compacted sand base which will hold up for decades is
approximately$8.50 sq/ft or just under$200,000.00 for the downtown area plus the cost of removing the
old sidewalk and the cost of disposal. The cost differential between Black Rock Pavers and City Hall
Pavers is about$20,000 to$35,000.00. The use of a compacted sand base will also allow for changes to be
made to utilities in the future without jack hammering out sidewalks.
• The cost of Black Rock Pavers was not included as an alternative in the bid,therefore, the true cost of the
use of pavers is not known and would have been good information to have.
• The existing plans should be seriously examined to determine how they can be changed from a
constructability standpoint to see if enough savings can be created by getting the costs down so we can use
the approximately$900,000 remaining to get the look that people are saying they want—pavers on the
sidewalks,new granite curbs and new pavement on the street.
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• The street is not really that bad, it's the sidewalks and curbing that need to be reworked.
3. Non-inclusion of areas most needy of improvement:
There was concern expressed that the scope of this project expanded to include the corner of Elm Street and
South Main Street up to the old Paul Pratt Library while ignoring other more needy areas:
• The Brook Street corner(from Richard Henderson's office to Cohasset News)and the James Lane
intersection at Main Street(between the gas station and the Red Lion Inn)are the two worst looking areas
in the Village and they have not been addressed at all.
• The intersection of Ripley Rd. and Pleasant St. in front of Pat's Barbershop while not particularly
dangerous, does not work very well, is in need of improvement and has not even been touched in this plan
Perhaps blasting and reworking of sidewalks on the Elm Street area and the span to the old Paul Pratt
Library should be eliminated from this project to focus on these more needy areas instead even if this
means addressing the issue with the State rather than ruin the integrity of the Village area
4. The impact of parking changes and elaborate phasing on merchants' businesses
The Village revitalization must work for the merchants if it is going to be ultimately successful. The only thing
that will make the Village vital is vital shops and businesses at work:
• Although it is understood that this project must be completed by May 30, 2005 for the grant money to be
useable, merchants are concerned that the current phasing program,although elaborate,will not work
for them. Merchants would prefer that their businesses are shutdown for 4-5 days with contractors working
through the nights to minimize the length of disruption to their businesses. Having work done at night
without pedestrian and vehicle traffic might also result in more aggressive bidding and less expense.
• Elimination of parking spaces on Tom Hamilton's side of Elm Street will affect the businesses. The
parking situation is not perfect but it is working and the current plans will make the situation worse. The
plans call for wider sidewalks for joggers and baby walkers and there is not enough room to do that.
Realizing that this is state money that comes with restrictions and standards,perhaps we should not take the
state funds for Elm Street, remove Elm Street from this project and revisit Elm Street at a later date.
• If tampering with parking makes things more difficult for the merchants,the outcome is going to be
adverse. What will make an impact is the character of the buildings. Improvements that are modest and
simple and show an interest in making the Village vital, will motivate owners and shopkeepers to make
improvements to their own buildings.
• This is an old Village without loading docks so one thing that has to be accommodated are delivery trucks.
This is part of the fabric of the village that has to continue and curbing/curb cuts must take this into
consideration. For example,the current plans for Brook Street between the bank and the cleaners do not
have curbs at all,just pavement. Perhaps drive up curbing can be used so delivery trucks can back in for
deliveries while staying off the sidewalks.
• The size of the parking spaces must accommodate pedestrians with carriages etc. The Planning Board has
a lot of pressure on them from merchants on Rt. 3A to have micro parking spaces. If the Town goes out to
bid for the Village area with standards that are different than the standards the Planning Board has for site
plan review in the commercial area not only will these micro spaces not work for pedestrians, a precedent
can be set that will interfere with requiring contractors to provide larger spaces in other projects. Perhaps
it's better not to comply with regulations and not use the State funds rather than ruin the downtown area.
5. Number of bids
There is concern around the fact that only 3 bid documents have been taken out:
• Bids are usually higher when there is so little competition
• This should be a nice job for a company. There should be 20 bidders taking out bid documents with 5 or 6
ultimately putting in a bid.
• Does anyone know why there were so few bidders? Are the plans ambiguous or problematic? Was the bid
not advertised well? Someone should find out why there are so few bids.
6. Inclusion of utility companies
There was concern expressed that utility companies may have plans for future work that could be accomplished
during this project rather than having to disrupt the completed work in the future
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• The Water Department has plans to upgrade the water main going up No. Main Street from Scituate to
Hingham. Has the Water Department been contacted to determine if they want to do this work while this
project is going on? This could result in significant mutual savings in digging,repaving,police details etc.
• Have other utilities been contacted to ensure that they have an opportunity to replace any services/pipes
while this project is underway and roads are disrupted etc.
• The utility companies must be surveyed to determine which utilities would like to do work during this
project rather than later at a much higher expense.
• Property lines will have to be determined if utilities include their work during this project so it can be
determined who should be paying for portions of the work
• This combined approach might allow for utility conduits to be buried at a relatively small comparative
expense to the overall project
• If utility companies do want to accomplish work during this project, one contractor needs to oversee the
scheduling of subs etc. so the various contractors are not in each other's way, causing delays etc.
• Drainage down Brook Street and other areas should be considered at this time as well
7. Lack of communication between The Waterfield Design Group and other groups
• There was a general opinion the The Waterfield Design Group has never treated the Town like"clients."
Instead of listening to comments, opinions and suggestions from the Town, Waterfield has gone its own
way from the start of this project
• There was a general concern that The Waterfield Design Group has not been forthcoming in having plans
and drawings available. Until a few weeks ago when real, final drawings were released,plans were
"conceptual."
• Now that plans are finally available there are details that cause concern. For example, the plans show a
footing for a little wall in front of the Red Lion Inn that is 2' x2' of 3500 lb. concrete with reinforcement
for a retaining wall. When they go in,they will find ledge because it is built on ledge,necessitating a lot of
blasting at a greater extra expense. There are other specs in the plans that are unnecessarily substantial
• The stairs designed for St. Stephen's Church will require blasting out 5'-10' of ledge because the corner of
the road does not have 5' of space for sidewalks. This will cost a huge amount of money and the final,new
look is not necessarily needed
• There is real desire to avoid another James Brook Project situation that seems to be the result of this lack of
communication. Two weeks ago people's property flooded during heavy rain. There is substantial debate
between Tutela Engineering and The Waterfield Design Group regarding calculations. Something was
engineered incorrectly as property is still flooding. Yet,the two companies do not communicate with one
another. Contributing to this error was the lack of an objective outside review to catch mistakes. Mistakes
like this cannot be allowed to occur with the Village Improvement Project.
8. Lack of a detailed, objective review and involvement by a certified professional engineer
• Producing plans for a million dollar project without review by another objective engineer is unheard of
• This is a rather simpleminded project that has a huge set of plans, drawings and specifications that may be
much more than is really needed for this project. A certified professional engineer is capable of making
these decisions and suggesting changes—on the spot if necessary
• No engineering firm is perfect and mistakes can occur in the best design. However,review by an objective
certified professional engineer can increase the likelihood of avoiding mistakes such as the continued
flooding in the James Brook Project
• Involvement of a certified professional engineer also provides an individual to"police"the work that is
being done
Recommendations to the Selectmen:
While it appears as though a good deal of changes have been discussed, it was the general feeling that almost
everything this group would like to see accomplished could be accomplished by an appointed,knowledgeable
group working with the selected contractors to eliminate some aspects of this project that are considered costly and
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unnecessary and replacing those aspects with fewer,better done factors such as pavers instead of concrete. The
ultimate goal is to reel in the scope of this project and bring it back in line with the essence of the Village area in a
more efficient, cost effective manner.
1. The Selectmen should appoint a Construction Committee to represent the Town and work with The Waterfield
Design group and the selected contractor to accomplish the suggested changes in the areas of materials, scope
of the project,phasing,parking and so on. To represent the various merchants, contractors,the Selectmen and
the Planning Board it is recommended that the committee consist of:
Tom Hamilton
Dave Calhoun
Jim Sandell
Wayne Sawchuk
Ralph Dormitzer
Bob Sturdy
An additional charge of this committee would be to more clearly define the direction of the"streetscape"to
better represent the essence of Cohasset and the Village area.
2. In lieu of a Clerk of the Works for approximately$45,000, it is recommended that John Modzelewski be
retained to be at the ready to analyze plans, conduct inspections, answer questions and make professional,
sensible, cost effective suggestions for changes as the need arises. A professional engineer's decisions will
also reflect safety standards and regulations. This is not an ability or expectation of a Clerk of the Works
position but is necessary to the success of this project.
3. John Modzelewski should also look at the conflict between Tutela Engineering and The Waterfield Design
Group regarding the James Brook Project.
4. In the long term, the Town should consider retaining John Modzelewski as a part time engineer to review and
overview all projects for the Town of Cohasset
5. The Planning Board should be involved in the review of all projects of this sort. In general,the Board of
Selectmen have a different charge than the Planning Board. Specifically,they deal with higher level items for
shorter periods of time. These larger types of projects are generally overseen by the Planning Board because of
its experience and expertise in reviewing the detail over longer periods of time during the design,review and
construction phases of a project.
6. The Selectmen should postpone the bid at the last minute. Bidders talk to one another and gain an accurate idea
of the bids that are out. They know they have to come in with lower bids and generally,this tactic does result
in lower bids.
It was agreed that the concerns addressed during this discussion reflected the consensus of the people involved in
the discussion and not a simple majority opinion.
The suggested members of the recommended Construction Committee will attend the 4/21/04 Planning Board
Meeting for a 15 minute introductory conversation with John Modzelewski and the Planning Board.
Al Moore will attend the 4/27/04 Selectmen's Meeting to provide a detailed explanation of the content of this
Planning Board meeting.
The Planning Board will contact John Modzelewski to determine his availability to participate in the duration of
this project.
Meeting adjourned at: 9:15 PM.