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August 10,2005
COHASSET PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
DATE: WEDNESDAY,AUGUST 10,2005
TIME: 7:00 PM
PLACE: COHASSET TOWN HALL—SELECTMEN'S MEETING ROOM
41 HIGHLAND AVENUE, COHASSET,MA 02025
Board Members Present: Alfred Moore, Chairman
Peter J. Pratt,Vice Chairman
Stuart Ivimey, Clerk
Mike Westcott
Board Members Absent: Robert Sturdy
Recording Secretary Present: Jo-Ann M. Pilczak
Town Planner Present: Elizabeth B. Harrington
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 7:02 PM
7:02 P.M. DeNIRO'S RESTAURANT(not on agenda) Frank Amonte,Bay Planning; John Fairchild,
Abutter, in attendance. Mr. Amonte recalled for Board that decreasing fencing by approx. 25' was approved. Fence
would be between chainlink fence on Fairchild property and existing wood guardrail. Mr. Fairchild would like 5
arborvitae planted which Amonte agrees to.Amonte also noted that the plan was to also plant 2 blue spruce aside
Fairchild's garage area. Mr. Fairchild also asked for one Austrian pine so the area is green all year. Mr. Amonte
pointed out that Austrian Pine grows to 60' high and 40' wide which the soil/ledge in that area will not support.
Instead,Mr. Amonte suggested shallow root Japanese Black Scotch Pine.Mr.Amonte pointed out that the
applicant will not be maintaining the property—only planting. Mr. Fairchild stated understanding. Mr. Amonte
further noted that the applicant is ready to begin clearing and planting but asks relief from the Planning Board in
that Mr. Fairchild's property has not been cared for or maintained in at least a year and the 7' high growth during
that time has gotten out of control. He asked that Mr. Fairchild share responsibility for the clearing work.
MOTION: by Member Ivimey that the Planning Board not amend the previous decision and that the
applicant is responsibility to clear the land as stated in the earlier decision.
SECOND: Member Pratt
VOTE: 3-0 MOTION APPROVED (Member Westcott had not arrived at this time)
For the record,Mr.Amonte wanted it noted that they will clear the area but will not be liable for any damage
incurred to existing vegetation because of the clearing of the excessive overgrowth on Mr. Fairchild's property.Mr.
Fairchild noted that only 1 blue spruce is to remain, all the rest if the growth is to be removed.
Refrigeration unit concern: 8' x 10' walk-in refrigeration unit not on plan. Does not encroach on footprint or
setbacks. Compressor is quieter than all others. Fully gasketed so it is very quiet when doors are shut. Trees will
block view of it. Building Commissioner Egan is satisfied with it. Egan suggested that Planning Board visit site to
look at it. Will leave as open item until next meeting until Planning Board visits.
Lighting concern: Amonte states they are in complete compliance with condition of no lighting spill off-site. One
light above kitchen door is dusk to dawn by photocell for security purposes. All other lights are on timers to turn
off 30 min. after the close of business (12:30 AM).
7:25 P.M. 2 SMITH PLACE, SITE PLAN REVIEW CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING, APP:
RICHARD BROWN, OWNER: 2 SMITH PLACE REALTY TRUST,date stamped: 06/21/05.
(EXTENSION TO 08/24/05) Member Pratt recused self. Richard Brown; Attorney Richard Henderson;Herb
Keundig,Architect; Terry McGovern and Brian Taylor, Stenbeck&Taylor attendance.
Keundig explained new architecturals and design is a hip roof wood building with cupola to look more like old barn
or train station/depot design. Semi low roof with a 7 pitch. Main building is 175' long(2 10' with 10' mechanical
bathroom off one end and smaller bay off other end). Each bay is 25' x 50'. To be used sporadically at end of day
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by contractors. Designed to be user and neighbor friendly. Exterior treatment: 30 yr. fiberglass, architectural type
roof shingles; clapboard front and vertical barn board on sides; colors in beige,grey and earth tones;high windows
on backside, facing RR tracks; 6 panel,metal/fiberglass doors,not electrically operated; down facing light on side
of each bay door or above door; gutters, downspouts; only a small plague on each bay door,no sign outside bldg.
Member Ivimey would like to see catalog cuts of light fixtures.
Taylor noted all changes requested by Board at last meeting were implemented including: detail about existing and
proposed utilities; grass paved system for overflow parking if needed as well as parking inside each bay; added
guardrail on top of retaining wall;white pines to be planted every 10' along residential abutter property to provide
heavy density screening; Cultec drainage system added to back of bldg. to recharge drainage off roof, highlighted
high point of bldg; added detail about recharge system.
Public comment: Chris Allen,21 Pleasant St., commented asked whether Board Members had any personal
relationship with Mr. Brown(Concerned about"we'll get this done"comment by Member Moore at last meeting).
Member Moore explained that Board has always tried to be fair to applicants as well as abutters and again
explained the constraints of site plan review. Susan Keckemety, 7 Cushing Rd., asked about dimensions of lot and
if they conform with zoning and if footprint is the same as presented in previous plans(yes). Can Tiryaki, 17
Pleasant St., asked if 7-8' trees can screen a 23' high bldg. Taylor answered that the trees are buffering low trucks
and low level lighting directed at the structure not at the parking lot and,will screen. Tiryaki also commented that
he had his own survey done and feels the property line is incorrect and the ditch is on his property. Taylor is
confident his survey is accurate but will check. Tiryaki also concerned about use and time bldg. can be used,and
requested that it not be used before 7 AM and not after 8 PM. Attorney Henderson noted that the Planning Board
can regulate hours but that generally hours are based on what the business is and there is no statute about regulating
hours and that in order to restrict hours,the nature of the business must lend itself to restriction and require
protection and that in this case,there is no outside storage or equipment. Further,he noted that uses and abuses are
dealt with by the courts not by site plan review. Chris Allen, 21 Pleasant,noted that a huge factor is that Smith
Place will be shut off so the only access is through multiple residential streets and the Board should keep that
foremost in their mind and err on the side of caution. Elsa Miller, 60 Reservoir Rd., : asked if the site partially in
commercial and partially in residential(yes)and has concerns with that; asked if this has gone before Conservation
(yes)and has been approved(yes)and notes that she does not see wetlands delineation on the map; does not see the
Rivers Act or stormwater run-off considered; questions the impact on James Brook during and after construction;
asks about the town owned parcel on Pleasant St. as possible access (Member Moore noted the town agreement
with the MBTA about parking and Town not wanting to cede any parking spaces); asked if the Town is going to
ask for a Clean Site Report(already done); asked if the intended use is for storage(No. Member Moore noted that
the it can be sued for anything allowed by zoning and if someone does something not allowed by zoning that the
Zoning Officer addresses); asked if the Planning Board has seen wetlands delineation information to which
Member Moore noted that the Planning Board relies on the expertise of ConComm to evaluate it. Can Tiryaki, 17
Pleasant St.,noted that if the use could change in the future and is more reason to limit hours to protect abutters
and,that the accuracy of the property lines will effect the size of the bldg. and should be resolved. Member Moore
noted that the Planning Board has to rely on stamped/certified plans and that if plans are in error,they have to be
corrected. Steve Hadfield, 8 Cushing Rd.,noted that contractors can be called out at all hours of night for
emergencies and asked about restricting hours. Member Moore noted that Board can restrict hours but must be a
reasonable accommodation. Member Westcott thought the access issue should be looked into and that the Planning
Board should help accelerate that process and incorporated as a follow-up condition. Mr. Brown is not averse to
exploring other access.
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to close the public hearing.
SECOND: Member Westcott
VOTE: 3-0 MOTION APPROVED
Member Ivimey asked Modzelewski if he felt all the items in his memo had been addressed. Referencing Stenbeck
&Taylor 08/10/05 letter,Modzelewski noted:
- would like cuts and fills on an whole number elevation basis (8,9,10,11)
- need net fill prior to signing
- p. 3 #7 clarify inverts—should be on plans prior to signing
- p. 4#3 gas lines should be on plans before signing
- p. 5 #11 irrigation system—Planning Board should decide if they will require one
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- p. 5 #13 lighting catalog cuts should be submitted before signing and condition that no light shall be cast
off site
- p. 5 #14 screening must have good growth on bottom or be supplemented with low bushes.
- p. 5 #17 grading on RR side will work—2 %slope generally needed to prevent puddling/ponding
- p. 5 #18 on abutter side—berm&detention pond—slopes away from abutters' properties toward
applicant's property—needs Swale—add before plan signing.
- should have stakes shown to resolve property line issue/discrepancies
Building Commissioner Egan has no additional input.
Member Moore stated that Modzelewski analysis is thorough; comment should be attached to urge connection to
town lot if possible;property line needs to be researched and resolved; hours of operation restriction(Egan stated
that 7AM is customary—should avoid deliveries but should not restrict someone going quietly to their place of
business. Member Westcott agrees with 7 AM—9 PM as restriction for hours of operation; feels design issues have
been resolved and is more harmonious; lot coverage and parking have been resolved;would like to aggressively
address access via town parcel; feels use will police itself over time. Member Ivimey agrees with Moore and
Westcott in that design has improved but still does not believe it is harmonious and non-injurious to neighbors and
thins Board should be more concerned with and aware of the abutters. Ivimey feels residents should be primary
concern and that there will be"significant"detriment to neighborhood and traditional qualities of the Town and that
one cannot build this building on this lot and meet the charge of the Board. Further,Ivimey noted that as much as
the concept of "use"is not within the purview of the Planning Board, the real use of this application is storage and
warehousing and is not allowed and would like to add a statement that the Planning Board believes the intended use
is storage/warehousing and is prohibited(p. 15 of bylaws). Attorney Henderson noted that it is beyond the
Planning Board charge to express this arbitrary and capricious opinion. Building Commissioner Egan noted that
the use issue would be resolved by the ZBA. Member Westcott noted that the Town erred by closing Smith Place
and cutting off this site from the rest of the commercial district and should now correct that mistake and help
reconnect this to the rest of the commercial district with use of the town parcel as an access. Town Planner noted
that the applicant must be willing to assume some of the legwork with the Selectmen, legal assistance, site plan etc.
regarding access through the town parcel to be used for a Town Meeting Warrant.
MOTION: by Member Moore to approve this Site Plan contingent upon:
• the applicant completing and implementing all comments made by Engineer John Modzelewski
• hours of operation relative to delivery/loading be restricted to no earlier than 7 AM and no later than
9PM
• the property line survey issue being resolved
• an ongoing reasonable effort being made by the applicant,with the assistance of the Planning Board,to
seek alternative access through the town owned parcel in an effort to reconnect his commercial property
with the rest of the commercial district(via participating in the public process, going to Selectmens meeting,
helping with plans).
SECOND: Member Westcott
VOTE: 2—1 MOTION APPROVED
Planning Board Members agreed this decision can be filed without being reviewed at another meeting.
9:00 P.M. ZBA RECOMMENDATIONS
• 39 HILL STREET, SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION,APP: VAUGHN&JILL LITTLEJOHN,
date stamped: 08/09/05. Building Commissioner Egan explained that neither the architect nor the
homeowner realized there was a zoning issue until they planned to moved out of the home for work to
take place. The architect was not familiar with Cohasset zoning and a series of honest mistakes occurred.
This is a typical non-conforming dwelling on a non-conforming lot situation. Back of the house is 4"too
close to the lot line and front is 18"too close to the lot line (lot line and house are not quite parallel).
Increase in height would extend non-conformity requiring decision from ZBA. Footprint does not change.
MOTION: by Member Westcott to recommend that the ZBA approve this special permit application.
SECOND: Member Pratt
VOTE: 4-0 MOTION APPROVED
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9:10 P.M. CEDARMERE—REVIEW STATUS OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL Jim Smalanskas,
Leggat McCall and Neil Murphy in attendance. Cleared area for: road all the way to Rt. 3A;Westerly House and
the retention ponds adjacent to the Westerly House; and, some brush/undergrowth in area where first section of
houses to be built so buffer zone area could be seen(have not gone into 50' buffer zone). Tonight, Smalanskas
would like to discuss: roughing in road to Rt. 3A as this will be primary truck route rather than Beechwood St.;
confirm what they can and cannot do in buffer zone; and, discuss proceeding with additional phase of clearing.
Member Moore asked about parking spots in buffer zone that were discovered at last meeting. Smalanskas noted
that the building in buffer zone can be moved forward and away from the buffer and the parking shown in the 30'
buffer can be eliminated in that corner of the site and there is still more than adequate parking. 50' buffer would
require elimination of 9 spaces while 30' buffer would require elimination of 3 spaces. Murphy asked for 30' buffer
and thereby eliminate only 3 spaces. Member Pratt would not like to set this precedent. Member Moore stated that
if there is still enough parking with the elimination of 9 spaces, the buffer will remain at 50'.
Member Pratt asked if there is anything that can be done to protect more vegetation so it doesn't look so clear cut.
John Modzelewski replied that the reality is the roadways have been clear and that in the other areas,the understory
has been removed but that the trees still remain and that in reality, a lot of trees will be removed to build 110 units.
However,he noted that once grading is complete,they will have a count of how many trees >8" have been lost
and that the Board can ask to have them replaced in landscaping. Member Ivimey stated that the thought the buffer
area should be sacrosanct and that intrusion should be allowed only when the need is overwhelming. Member
Moore thought the Board's intention was that the buffer might have to be disturbed during construction but would
then be repaired and that the bigger concern is that patios etc. not be in the buffer. Modzelewski noted that in some
areas of the buffer,much if the growth is not deciduous and could be improved. Smalanskas thinks there is a need
for some flexibility in the buffer zone area.
Member Pratt asked Modzelewski if he was concerned about the 7%grade for 80' in the area of the Westerly
Building(an within the watershed protection district that limit salt conditions). Modzelewski replied that he is not
worried as cars will be going slowly in that area for the intersection.
Smalanskas would like to proceed and begin clearing the area to the left of Carriage House Way. Member Moore
stated that the Board would rely John Modzelewski's expertise -when he is comfortable with it,he can give the go
ahead. Modzelewski noted that the Board has given the go ahead for Phase I and no buffer zone and would like
to visit the site on a regular basis—probably Wednesdays-to examine grading and determine when areas beyond
that can be started. Smalanskas pointed out that Leggat McCall has meetings on site every Tuesday.
Member Moore asked that Harrington email the dates of site visits to Board members.
Town Planner Harrington flagged specific conditions that she thought need a vote or an update:
#12: Re_ug latoryAgreement: In process—(was to have been dealt with prior to the start of any activity). Right now,
Cohasset Town Counsel comments are being reviewed by Leggat McCall counsel. Once those comments are
received,they will be incorporated and sent back to Cohasset Town Counsel for review.
#20: Submission of Construction Narrative for review and approval prior to the start of any activity. Has been
submitted and reviewed by Harrington and Modzelewski. Both feel it meets everything in the special permit.
Construction schedule was to start in July,2005 and has been bumped up to August,2005 and has been updated to
reflect new dates. Smalanskas explained that mitigation plan,construction narrative and schedule, and phasing plan
—single and double units to be done first, Westerly House &Manor House in next wave of activity and other side
of Manor House to be last wave of activity. These documents are on file in PB Office should public care to review.
Approval and vote by Board required after they review.
#23 Traffic Mitigation Plan: Reviewed by Modzelewski and Harrington. Plan is the way Modzelewski envisioned
it would be. Member Pratt and Ivimey thought all points covered in hearings were taken to heart and implemented
and that Board should honor it and amend it if problems arise. Member Pratt asked if neighbors were aware of
schedule and if single point of contact number can be made available to public so they can call with concerns.
Smalanskas noted that monthly meetings will be scheduled with abutters to keep them apprised of upcoming
clearing,blasting and construction events and that contact number—(781-383-4030)—will also be distributed as
part of public information release. Approval and vote to be done at later date.
#53 Forest Management Plan: Accepted at last meeting. Satisfied and implemented in phases with Modzelewski as
arbiter as to when next phases can be started.
#57 Left Hand Lane question: still outstanding—Harrington has not heard from ConComm yet. Smalanskas will
let Harrington know if he hears anything from ConComm.
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#60 Draft of legal covenant restricting further subdivision of site: Still in process- document has been submitted
and is being reviewed by Town Counsel. Member Pratt will draft language to send to Town Counsel to address the
fact that there are no future rights to access anything but current, existing homes as well as the senior overlay etc.
#61 Redesign at Norman Todd Rd.and Beechwood St. : Still outstanding-technically has been done and submitted
but still needs to be accepted by Board of Selectmen. Harrington will discuss with Town Manager Griffin.
#62 Location and specifications on exterior air conditioners: Still outstanding. Cited as done on Smalanskas's
08/05/05 status report—not done.
#67 Plans on barn,house, &waste water treatment plant to be reviewed 90 days prior to construction: Architects
are currently working on plans. Harrington issued reminder that review must happen 90 days prior to construction.
TOM POWERS, POWERS LANE Mr. Powers notified Planning Board Office on the afternoon of this meeting,
that he had just returned from vacation and learned of the meeting. He indicated that he was not able to attend this
meeting,but that he has contacted a contractor and that paving should be completed within 30 days.
10:00 P.M. ADMINISTRATION
• VOTE TO ACCEPT 07/27/05 PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
MOTION: by Member Ivimey to accept 07/27/05 minutes
SECOND: Member Westcott
VOTE: 4-0 MOTION APPROVED
• MILL RIVER BOATYARD—Member Moore will ask Building Commissioner Egan to have applicant come
before the Planning Board for a Site Plan Review
• SCITUATE HILL PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION DECISION—Must be filed by 08/20/05. Civil
Designs to provide input about traffic. Town Planner Harrington will circulate draft one more time. Will need
feedback by 08/17/05.
• PLANNING BOARD OFFICE—Members Moore and Pratt to meet with Town Manager Griffin and Michael
Buckley to discuss staffing and logistics in Planning Board Office.
10:15 P.M. PLANNING BOARD TOOK A 5 MINUTE BREAK,RECONVENING IN PLANNING
BOARD OFFICE TO VIEW JIM SHIPSKY SLIDE TAPE.
10:20 P.M. JIM SHIPSKY, SLIDE TAPE ON ALTERNATIVE GREEN DEVELOPMENT
APPROACHES RELATIVE TO THE COOK ESTATE Jim Shipsky showed slide tape on"green"
development feeling there was still time to address"green"development relative to Cook Estate to help lower
energy use and costs from a conservation design/development standpoint during Planning Board reviews. Planning
Board members thought the ideas were very worthwhile. Member Pratt suggested investigating obtaining state
monies to help defray implementation costs. Member Moore suggested that as soon as announcement is made
regarding group selected to develop the Cook Estate, a select group be invited to a meeting to introduce the"green"
concept and encourage them to incorporate"green"concepts into their design and development.
MOTION: by Member Pratt to adjourn.
SECOND: Member Ivimey
VOTE: 4-0 MOTION APPROVED
MEETING ADJOURNED AT: 11:00 P.M.
NEXT MEETING: Wednesday,September 7,2005, 7:00 P.M.
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