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Cohasset School Committee Meeting
School Committee Minutes
Wednesday, November 20, 2019
Cohasset Middle-High School
Community Use Room
143 Pond Street
Cohasset, MA
In Attendance: Ellen Maher, Chairman
Jennifer Madden
Paul Kearney
Craig MacLellan
Ashley Colleary
Also in Attendance: Dr. Patrick Sullivan, Superintendent
Dr. Leslie Scollins,Assistant Superintendent
Michael MacMillan, Director of Finance& Operations
Call to Order and Roll Call-Chairman Maher called the meeting to order at 7:01p.m. Roll Call Vote: Paul
Kearney-Present;Ashley Colleary-Present; Ellen Maher-Present,Jennifer Madden-Present,Craig
MacLellan-Present. Chairman Maher reminded the public that the meetings are televised and
recorded.
Pledge-Recited.
Public Comment-None.
Superintendent's Report-Student School Committee Representative—Supt. Dr. Sullivan introduced
three students who will be representing the Superintendent/School Committee Student Advisory
Council. The council held their first meeting last week and is made up of high school and middle school
students and will have two representatives from Deer Hill at two meetings. The council will discuss all
things Cohasset and will focus on giving students a voice.
Caroline Patterson introduced herself. She is a junior at CHS and plays soccer, basketball and lacrosse.
Ms. Patterson also works as a summer camp counselor at Cohasset Recreation and is involved with the
Green Team at the CHS. Ms. Patterson stated she has taught soccer skills to younger kids at Milliken
Field for the last three years. She stated the group spans across five grade levels so at their first meeting
last week they spent time getting to know each other. Ms. Patterson stated the students also spent
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time outlining their mission statement, establishing their roles and discussed ways to help students get
their voice across. Ms. Paterson stated there are further steps to be taken to understand the voice of
the student body and elicit change. Ms. Patterson stated she is proud to be part of the group and looks
forward to working with the group.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the basis of their work will be focused on three questions: how can we provide
student voice in order to promote change; what about CPS makes you proud and what about CPS would
you like to see improved?
Madeline Grudinskas introduced herself. Ms. Grudinskas is a senior at CHS and plays basketball and
field hockey. Ms. Grudinskas stated she has also worked at Buttonwoods Books &Toys for the last four
years and is also interning at a law firm. Ms. Grudinskas highlighted some recent and upcoming events
in Cohasset including the CMS production of the musical "Alice in Wonderland"; the CHS boys soccer
team defeated Atlantis Charter(4-1)to become the South Sectional Champions for the 4th consecutive
year and the team is currently playing Burke High School for the State Semifinals;the boys cross country
team won the 2019 Division 6 State Championship;the National Honor Society is welcoming over 40
new students on Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 7pm in the CHS Auditorium; the CHS Student Council
hosted the 2"d Annual Putting for Patients which raises money for cancer research; and Mrs. Cerruti's 8th
grade Sustainability Symposium is happening next Thursday 11/21 and Friday 11/22 in the CMHS
Learning Commons.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated that Challenge Day will take place on December 4, 2019 for the CHS seniors.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated Challenge Day has been around since 1987 and puts seniors through an
experiential learning process to build empathy.
Margaret Curley introduced herself. Ms. Curley is a senior at CHS. Margaret stated she is a member of
the Safe Schools Committee; a varsity debate officer; she interned last summer at Safe Harbor Cohasset
in addition to being a member of the Steering Committee and a Youth Ambassador for Safe Harbor. She
stated Safe Harbor Coalition Cohasset is the community's substance abuse prevention coalition which
works to reduce substance abuse in the community through education and the Youth Ambassadors is
the youth branch of Safe Harbor which does community awareness projects. She stated the Youth
Ambassadors recently participated in Red Ribbon Week, a national drug prevention program which
brings awareness of substance abuse and a few members went to Deer Hill to educate the students
about substance abuse prevention at an elementary school level. She stated the Coalition is working a
project, "Samantha Skunk", which is a script written by Dover Youth 2 Youth,which is a substance abuse
coalition in NH and the script talks in children friendly terms about a skunk accidentally taking its
parent's medication. She stated the Coalition is also working on "Sticker Shock", an annual program
done around the holidays in conjunction with Curtis Liquors where education messages are put on
alcohol packaging to prevent purchasing of alcohol for underage individuals.
Chairman Maher welcomed the students and thanked them for volunteering. Chairman Maher stated
it's has been a goal of the committee to have a student voice. Chairman Maher stated the students will
receive the School Committee packets by email and hard copy. Chairman Maher stated the Committee
encourages the students to weigh in during deliberation and they look forward to hearing their insight.
The Committee members thanked the students for volunteering their time. Mrs. Colleary asked Supt.
Dr. Sullivan to discuss the demographics of the council. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated there are two seniors,
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one junior,two sophomores and a freshman at the high school level; and three 8"grade students
including one Boston student. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated there will be two meetings focusing on the
elementary students and what is going on at Deer Hill. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the conclusion from
their first meeting was there weren't enough meetings.
Spotlight on Learning-Focus on Numeracy-Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins introduced Diane Barbieri,Jen
McPhillips, Marcia Campbell and Principal Farrell from the Osgood school. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated
their presentation will be focused on numeracy. Mrs. Campbell stated their first initiative is to help
children learn math facts using Math Fluency. Mrs. Campbell stated they have stressed with parents the
importance of helping their children practice how to solve problems. Mrs. Campbell stated they are
reminding parents to focus on reasoning, not memorization. Mrs. Campbell demonstrated how math is
changing using the open number line. Mrs. Campbell stated the teachers are piloting two programs this
year. Mrs. Barbieri stated she has been piloting Bridges using three modules including place value,
measurement and open number line, which are all part the math standards. Mrs. Barbieri discussed the
progression of the lessons being used and demonstrated using the theme of Jack and the Beanstalk.
Mrs. McPhillips discussed her takeaways from the pilot program, "Investigations", she is using with her
students. Mrs. McPhillips stated her biggest takeaway from Investigations is the model of math
workshop. Mrs. McPhillips stated math workshop shows students how to do rigorous and relevant math
work with their peers including problem solving, reasoning,thinking, sharing, and strategies. Mrs.
Colleary asked if there have been any tools given to parents to help students practice their math facts.
Mrs. McPhillips stated the Investigation program has a unit packet that goes home to parents to help
with strategies. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the pilot programs were selected because of the home to
school component. Mrs. Campbell stated she would be happy to meet with any parent to discuss
strategies. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the district teaches the standards and no one should feel their
children are getting a lesser experience because the teachers are using pilot programs. Asst. Supt. Dr.
Scollins stated this would be an equitable process and discussed the process of determining which
program the district will use moving forward.
School Start Time Presentation-Supt. Dr. Sullivan thanked the public for coming and gave an overview
on his presentation. Chairman Maher stated the Committee members will have a chance to ask
questions after Supt. Dr. Sullivan's presentation,the Committee members will deliberate and then take
public comment. Chairman Maher stated anyone wishing to make a public comment will need to
provide their name and address for the meeting minutes. Chairman Maher asked to avoid duplicate
comments and asked not to interrupt the person speaking. Chairman Maher also asked everyone to be
respectful and if everyone wants to say something the Committee may need to limit everyone so all
comments can be heard.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated an important factor in terms of planning for change is the amount of time
contractually required for time on learning. Supt. Dr. Sullivan reviewed the current schedule for each
school and stated the current schedules incorporate a 40-minute round trip for transportation. He also
noted the current schedules for DH and JOS factor an extra 10 minutes for the teacher end time after
the student instructional end time per the teacher collective bargaining agreement. Supt. Dr. Sullivan
reviewed the historical timeline for examining school start times for Cohasset Public Schools. Supt. Dr.
Sullivan discussed the two key logistical guidelines that he and the Start School Later Committee(SSLC)
were set with which included the proposal must be cost neutral and the proposal must be in place one
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year before implementation to comply with the teacher's collective bargaining agreement otherwise the
CTA can impact bargain. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the SSLC presentation done in July 2019 didn't include
logistical considerations as they felt that was the role of the district administration. Supt. Dr. Sullivan
stated he started working on the proposed change in July and consulted with various groups including
Mr. MacMillan, Director of Finance &Operations,the athletic director, district leadership,the METCO
director,the transportation coordinator, the CTA Pres, and other superintendents. Supt. Dr. Sullivan
stated he presented his proposal in August which fit the definition of cost neutral and it was voted and
approved by the School Committee with the understanding there were some uncertainties with the
middle and high school times. He stated he didn't look at a two-tier option because he wasn't asked to
look at it; it wasn't cost neutral and he felt operationally it wouldn't be a safe situation. Supt. Dr.
Sullivan stated there was strong feedback from the Superintendent Coffees which included the concern
of the large gap between the DH and JOS start times and the earlier start time for the younger students.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the METCO director expressed uncertainty of the August plan and she felt it
provided unity with Hingham. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he was presented with a signed petition from
approximately 200 parents asking him to consider combining Deer Hill and Osgood. Supt. Dr. Sullivan
researched the concerns presented to him and is in conversations with a couple of software companies
to help consolidate the district bus routes. Supt. Dr. Sullivan presented a possible option for a new
schedule with a dual start time for Deer Hill and Osgood. Supt. Dr. Sullivan reviewed the benefits of the
dual start time proposal and implementation cost factors to be considered for a dual start schedule.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated this proposal is not a cost neutral plan and variables start to take hold and need
to be considered. He said looking at the plan know they are confident the district would need to add at
least one driver, possibly two. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated bus ridership is another variable for the
proposed dual start plan. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the current traffic patterns have not been analyzed
for one year and he is unsure what the potential reduction in driver hours may mean for driver
recruitment and retention. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the next steps would be for the School Committee
members deliberate and if they decide it's an appropriate action to vote on the new proposal a vote will
be taken. Chairman Maher stated she shares the same concerns of the unknown and the bus ridership
is a variable to be considered. She also stated the lack of bus drivers and availability of getting qualified
drivers can't be overstated enough and is indicative of a nation wide shortage.
Mr. MacLellan asked Supt. Dr. Sullivan to elaborate on the impact bargaining process. Supt. Dr. Sullivan
stated the CTA has the right to impact bargain what that change will for be them. He stated it's hard to
tell what they would decide would be an impact of the change, it could mean their schedule,time at
work, or financial considerations. Mr. MacLellan stated his position is that you learn from your mistakes,
he is new in this role and thinks maybe they made a mistake on making two votes into one vote. He
believes that potentially in haste in order to get this going in time they tried to develop the best
potential solution for it with the most important aspect of it being cost neutral which this proposal is
not. Mr. MacLellan feels there is compelling reason to support the apparent position of the majority of
those present at the meeting and he supports the new proposal. Mr. MacLellan thanked Dr. Sullivan for
his diligent work on the proposal.
Mrs. Madden stated she disagrees with Mr. MacLellan and appreciates the community coming out
tonight but wishes the conversation took place before they took their vote. Mrs. Madden stated it is the
Committee member's duty to honor the teacher contract and to waiver is not going to be in the best
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interest of the teachers, students and families. Mrs. Madden stated she does not take her vote lightly;
she carefully considered her vote and she has listened for two years and she doesn't want the change.
She stated the community really wanted this change and she voted based on what the community
wanted. Mrs. Madden stated there was a group of parents who worked diligently for years on the
research and the Committee members always knew there was going to be give and take which was
always on the table. Mrs. Madden stated the cost of this change is unknown and money used for this
change could be used to help children. Mrs. Madden expressed her concern about safety,there is only
one road into the Joseph Osgood School, and she is extremely concerned about the bus drivers and the
potential decrease in bus driver hours and the job is no longer tenable for drivers. Mrs. Madden stated
there is a critical bus driver shortage as it is the district has had to call in other towns for sporting and
other school events. Mrs. Madden stated there are too many variables,the proposal is too tight, and
the change is not budget neutral. She stated childcare is very difficult for families and hopes to support
families by filling in that gap as she feels educating children is a shared responsibility. Mrs. Madden
apologized but does not think it will serve the district to say yes.
Mrs. Colleary stated she thinks Mrs. Madden brings an experienced, measured voice to the Committee.
Mrs. Colleary asked for clarification on who supports the August plan. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he
believes the people in favor of the August plan are in favor of it because it provides a later start to the
middle and high school, and didn't get the sense those in favor of the August plan were in favor of it
because it had anything to do with the elementary schools. The Committee members had a discussion
on the potential impact on bus driver hours. Mr. MacMillan stated they may have to increase bus driver
salaries.
Mr. Kearney stated any start time with a seven in front is too early. Mr. Kearney thanked the
administration and parents who put together the Start School Later Committee members. Mr. Kearney
would like to speak with the SSLC to see where they stand and doesn't feel like he's ready to say okay to
the new proposal without talking to the SSLC members. Chairman Maher stated the SSLC members
were here at the August meetings and understood there could be some tweaks.
Chairman Maher asked the student advisory committee members for their input. Madeline Grudinskas
stated she doesn't believe there wouldn't be too much of a difference between sleep time. She said her
schedule would just be shifted by a half hour and she would probably get the same amount of sleep
time. She said she would advise parents and the school committee to look more closely at the
elementary students who depend on their parent's availability to whether they can get to school on
time and their own schedules. Caroline Patterson stated the sleep part is important, but breakfast is the
most important meal of the day and personally getting up at 6:45am her appetite is not intact so having
extra time will allow students to have a nutritious meal before school. Margaret Curley said she agreed
with Caroline and eating breakfast at 6:45am is not possible for a lot of people. Additionally, she thinks
there is a lot of concern regarding activities after school, but another important consideration is how
late activities already go to and how late students already go to bed so both sides should be considered
regarding after school activities.
Chairman Maher stated she wouldn't want a plan to be in place for next year and then for the
Committee to answer all the questions and variables changes it again a year later. She feels that is more
disruptive to families and staff to change and change again. Her goal would be to make the decision and
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learn from it over a period, but the decision should be the very best decision for all students for a long
time. Chairman Maher stated the current schedule has been in place for decades. Her second concern
would be impact bargaining which is opening the contract and hasn't been done in history, so the
Committee members don't have exposure to that and must be prepared to give something for
something. She is confident they can work through it but doesn't know what the cost could be.
Chairman Maher feels Supt. Dr. Sullivan has a good relationship with the CTA. She shares concerns of
safety regarding the drive from DH to JOS. She stated there is no data to say it will/will not work and
stated there will be problems and they will need to figure out the best way to deal with them when they
happen. Chairman Maher stated there is an exit at the back of Osgood which is road legal but it's not an
everyday fix. She believes philosophically the two-tier plan is a better plan and has confidence Dr.
Sullivan, Mr. MacMillan and their team can hash out whatever variables they are faced with but there
are some they won't be able to. Chairman Maher asked for the support of the parents when they get to
budget time in March and are go to the Board of Selectman and Advisory to present the district needs.
She stated the Committee will send out blackboard messages with meeting dates. Chairman Maher
stated there are 3 choices: 1) keep the plan we have; 2) rescind the plan and delay start times for a
whole year, or 3)vote on a new plan with impact bargaining. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the CTA is not the
bad guy in this and they are just following their contract.
Chairman Maher stated the Committee will take a few questions and stated she doesn't want to be
disrespectful but due to the late hour she is requesting only new comments.
Dima Omran-19 Ledgewood Farm Drive stated everyone left something very important at home to be
here and she didn't appreciate Chairman Maher said she would give everyone a chance to speak
however she was going to decide if the questions were too much because there is a lot on the agenda.
Mrs. Omran stated Chairman Maher can't expect people to show up if you are going to put restrictions
on time because all their voices should be heard.
Monique Armstrong-255 Pond Street stated there are people here supporting the plan that was set
forth in August. She stated she worked diligently on the SSLC. She stated people spent hours upon
hours of work and the community in the entirety was invited to participate. Mrs.Armstrong stated she
likes the two-tier plan,supports the elementary students and is concerned about postponing the
decision. She feels the school times may never get moved if we can't come up with a cost-neutral plan.
Ms. Balazs-15 Ledgewood Farm Drive-Ms. Balazs stated she comes from Easton and they faced similar
transportation issues and suggested the Committee look to Easton Public Schools on how to address and
handle the transportation problem. Ms. Balazs commented on the busing and asked how it would
impact families versus the town. She asked if the bus tariff is affecting just the parents who pay for the
bus or the entire Town of Cohasset. She stated she hasn't seen any studies of the impact of an earlier
start time does to the younger students and would hate to think that was overlooked during discussions
over money. Ms. Balazs thanked the community and everyone who worked towards these initiatives.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he did research which was discussed at the October meeting, and the research
he found didn't focus specifically on elementary students it focused holistically on how the lack of sleep
affects all students. Mr. MacMillan stated now they have not gotten in to whether transportation fees
would be increased, and the implicit assumption would be that it would impact the school budget. Mr.
MacMillan stated fees are reviewed annually and as transportation goes up should fees go up.
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Laurie Bronstein Tabaczynski—12 Old Pasture Road stated she looked at the numbers for bus fees and if
you assume there are 450 students paying the fee and the district increased the fee by$100, that results
in $45,000 which would pay for the additional bus. She stated they also looked at the before and after
school Champions program which is almost$5,000 which would pay for that. Ms.Tabaczynski asked
about the additional cost for the METCO transportation if they went with the August plan. She stated if
that's accepted why isn't the extra cost being considered to make it right for the elementary student.
Mr. MacMillan stated the METCO transportation is funded by a state grant so it's not a direct impact on
the budget.
Chairman Maher stated the budget must be considered but it shouldn't drive the Committee's decision
and their decision should be based on what's best for the students and staff.
Laura Soderberg 16 Black Horse Lane—Mrs. Soderberg spoke to due process and stated many hours were
spent inviting input from all constituents and now we are hearing after a decision has been made the
constituents that are impacted by the shifting and change are being very vocal. She challenges the issue
that an overwhelming majority is in support of the two-tier system. Mrs. Soderberg talked about how
she has watched how hard the Committee members work on their budget in the past and have to go
before the Board of Selectmen and get the Town to approve a bigger budget and the two-tiered
proposal is not cost-neutral. She also stated the district is straining their resources on the two-tiered
system and it would be naive to say there wouldn't be additional budget impact as the plan starts rolling
out. She discussed the difference in numbers for early wakeups at the middle and high schools versus at
the elementary school and what would have the most impact and be the most beneficial to students.
Chad D'Adamo MacDonald 67 Forest Ave—stated the focus should be on the health and well-being of
the children rather than the budget and the community missed the boat on that.
Maura Sharry Virginia Lane-Mrs. Sharry stated the group that met was not Start School Later. The
group that met was to look at school start time, the community was invited, and they did an incredible
amount of outreach. She stated the younger you are the most resilient you are. Mrs. Sharry stated the
middle school kids are the most vulnerable and need the deep brain wave sleep in the morning. Mrs.
Sharry stated the vote that was done in August was based on science and feels this is based on
inconvenience. She thinks the possibility to delay this one more year would be unfair after all the work
that has been done. She stated the group looked at the proposal holistically and it was really thought
out.
Mrs. Colleary stated she understands the tendency and need to advocate for each person's personal
situation but thinks it is dangerous to assume that we know the intentions of people who are not in our
personal situation. She said it would be great if we could stop trying to punish people for not doing
enough. She thinks everyone here is trying to do their best to advocate for their children,the staff and
leadership and it's less productive to assign blame and it's more productive to identify best ways to
move forward.
Allison Cambi 15.Woodland Drive—Mrs. Cambi commented that we have all stated there is no science
to present on the impact on the younger kids so do we want our kids to be the guinea pigs and come
back in five years and say the effect it had on them. She also stated there is no way her younger
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children are going to eat breakfast at 6:30am and stated it's about the health and well-being of all
children.
Lydia St. Onge 401 Beechwood Street—Mrs. St. Onge stated all the kids are vulnerable and we care
about all of them and that's why we are here. Mrs. St. Onge referenced the concern at the Commons
and driving rhythms and they are doing a practice drive through and asked if they could do a practice
run. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he has hesitation in performing a human experiment and he is working
with groups in estimating what the traffic pattern will be. Supt. Dr. Sullivan wouldn't advocate for a
dress rehearsal but will advocate for working with software companies.
Barbara Stefan 260 Jerusalem Road—Mrs. Stefan asked the Committee members what they learned
from Duxbury. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he learned they had many of the same questions concerns as
Cohasset families. Chairman Maher stated Sue Skieber said it was a 4-year process for Duxbury. Supt.
Dr. Sullivan stated he talked to the Superintendent in Duxbury and he's not getting a lot of complaints
and it's functioning in Duxbury. Mrs. Stefan stated the budget impact can't be understated and this
Town has not approved an override in decades and the district operates on a shoestring budget and is
concerned about what may have to get cut. She is not convinced the budget implications have been
fully explored.
Ken Balazs-15 Ledgewood Farm—Mr. Balazs stated he respects the fact that the Committee must make
some assumptions in order to do budgets and as it relates to logistics. He asked why they can't survey
as to how many students might be on the buses. Chairman Maher stated they could survey but there
wouldn't be definitive numbers until the district does bus registrations in June. She stated the
Committee could survey but they don't have the data now.
Diana Watkins 83 Fairoaks Lane stated she hadn't heard about this and is here now and doing
everything to have her voice heard. She is concerned for those who still haven't heard and said maybe
there is a flaw to the system in getting information out. Mrs. Watkins feels very strongly that the
proposal is not okay.
Jessica Brooks-19 King Street asked if the Committee rescinded the August plan and there is a delay and
we stick to the current plan can the CTA impact bargain. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the CTA could
potentially impact bargain. Mrs. Brooks asked if we want to put a plan in place for decades is it worth a
little more time.
Dima Omran-19 Ledgewood Farm Drive stated the proposal affects everyone and there's no judgement
on anyone and everyone is trying their best. She stated everyone has worked hard for the proposal and
the middle and high school should not be impacted by the new proposal.
Tom Meade 711 Jerusalem Road—Mr. Meade stated he summarized that the two-tiered system is better
for everyone. Mr. Meade suggested the district may have a better chance with recruiting and retention
of drivers by offering a higher wage and letting them work less hours. He stated this would put the
district at a competitive advantage if the drivers have a shorter day but are making the same amount of
money. Mrs. Colleary stated she agrees and maybe this addresses other issues such as the transition
from JOS to DH.
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Mr. Kearney stated the elementary schools should start with an 8. Mr. Kearney recognized Chairman
Maher for all her work and asked the public to come to the meetings and be their advocates.
Barbara Stefan 260 Jerusalem Road stated she went to Town Meeting and could count on one hand the
number of people who had children in the school district. Mrs. Stefan asked the parents to stay engaged
and to support the school committee at the meetings.
Laurie Bronstein Tabaczynski stated you can see that if we stand behind something the Committee can
get the support and the parents are here to fight for what is right for their children. She stated there is a
plan on the table that is good for all.
Maura Sharry commented that her fear was over waiting another year.
Tracy Kearney-461 Chief Justice Cushing Highway asked if we go to the CTA with the new plan and they
reject the new plan could it go back to the August plan. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the district also has the
right to impact bargain. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated he would like to get the opinion of legal counsel.
Maura Sharry asked if they could change the start time the same for the middle and high school, so we
don't have to renegotiate. Chairman Maher stated a slight modification to the August plan does not
have to be impact bargained. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated there is an operational concern for the 8:25 start
that has been sifted out and the contractual time aligns the teacher start time with the kids and we
wouldn't have the contractual supervisory people in place.
Mr. Kearney stated he is concerned about the budget and how it affects everyone. He feels we need
another meeting to decide and would like to delay it. Mrs. Colleary asked what Mr. Kearney feels the
value in delaying would be, does he want to digest the information, or does he want to change times
again. Mr. Kearney said he wants to digest everything, and everyone should be able to take this in and
understand what we are voting for.
Easton asked Chairman Maher if he is making a motion to reconsider or is the Committee voting on the
motion. Chairman Maher stated the motion has been made and Mr. Kearney is deliberating and if there
are no further questions the motion will be put to a vote.
Tracy Kearney-461 Chief Justice Cushing Highway asked if there is a way to put your vote forward that
assures that we don't leave, and everything unravels,and kids are going to start at 7:30am. Mrs.
Kearney asked if they can put a protection in the motion. Chairman Maher stated they need legal
clarification if the motion passes and they are unsuccessful in impact bargaining with the CTA that it
reverts to the August 21, 2019 plan. She appreciates Mr. Kearney's perspective but feels there is
nothing new the Committee will learn before their December and January meetings and answers to the
questions regarding the variables will come through as they cycle through the budget cycle and thinks a
survey on ridership is a great idea and could inform a lot of decisions on transportation. Supt. Dr.
Sullivan stated they lost their right to impact bargaining.
Mrs. Stefan asked if there has been any discussion with the Town on the topic. Mr. MacMillan stated
this will become part of the budget process.
Dima Omran-19 Ledgewood Farm Drive stated if there is a problem with the budget the parents need to
fight for this and make sure we don't undermine our kids.
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Motion by Mr. MacLellan to approve the dual start time proposal for DH and JOS, seconded by Mrs.
Colleary. Roll Call Vote: Paul Kearney-Aye;Ashley Colleary-Aye; Ellen Maher-Aye;Jennifer Madden-
Nay; Craig MacLellan-Aye
Chairman Maher stated they are trying to figure out how to best communicate with the parents and
asked for parents to share any ideas on communications with the Committee. Chairman Maher thanked
everyone who emailed the Committee and shared their feelings.
Lydia St. Onge 401 Beechwood Street asked to consider beyond the school mailing list for
communications.
Motion by Mr. MacLellan to vote to postpone the Food Service Presentation agenda item to the next
meeting on December 4, 2019, seconded by Mrs. Madden and the vote was (4-1).
Mrs. Colleary informed the audience there will be a free screening of"Dawnland" on November 25,
2019 at 6:00pm -8:00pm in the CHS Auditorium.
PD/Data Team Update-Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins updated the Committee on professional development
done in November. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins discussed the Ed Camp held at Deer Hill which consisted of
three workshops included "Responsive Classroom Beyond Morning Meeting"presented by Kara Moser;
"Self-Care for Staff' presented by Robyn Costa; and "Social Thinking Strategies"presented by Kim
Kurker, Laurie Dolan and Kate Jones. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated the ASPEN super users worked with
the middle school and high school teachers on using the new student information system including
reporting for report cards and grades. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated the departments worked together
on collecting resources so the administration has an idea of what the district has for resources by
content area and grade. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated the data collected will be used to better align the
curriculum and make sure the district has the resources needed and in turn create a cycle to review the
curriculum. Asst. Supt. Dr.Scollins stated the district has brought in a data consultant to work with the
MCAS data teams. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated they talked about the accountability process, what the
state is grading the teachers on, and how the district is rated. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated they
reviewed the standards, how the students are doing and looked for trends in the data.
Approval of Warrant-Motion by Mr. Kearney to approve Warrant 20-09S, seconded by Mrs. Colleary.
Roll Call Vote: Paul Kearney-Aye,Ashley Colleary-Aye, Ellen Maher-Aye,Jennifer Madden—Aye,Craig
MacLellan-abstained.
Finance-Gift-Mr. MacMillan presented a gift of$500 received from Awesome Blossom to benefit the
Fine Arts Department. Mr. MacMillan stated customers can order a specific bouquet of flowers and
Awesome Blossom will donate a portion of the sale back to the CHS Fine Arts Department. Motion by
Mr. MacLellan to accept the gift of$500 from Awesome Blossom to the CHS Fine Arts Department,
seconded by Mr. Kearney. Roll Call Vote: Paul Kearney-Aye,Ashley Colleary-Aye, Ellen Maher-Aye,
Jennifer Madden—Aye, Craig MacLellan-Aye.
Food Service Presentation-Chairman Maher stated the Committee voted to defer the Food Services
Presentation to the December 4, 2019.
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Draft FY21 Budget Priorities-Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins reviewed the FY21 Budget Priorities which included
elementary numeracy; curriculum alignment and rigor; social emotional learning; and safety and
facilities. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated the most important thing is to look at their teaching and learning
and how the district will continue to grow with a rigorous curriculum. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins stated the
leadership is also doing learning walks which will provide non-evaluative, non-judgmental feedback to
staff. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated through the budget process the administration can look where the district
may be deficient. Mrs. Madden stated she does not understand why the math curriculum stops at 5tn
grade. Mrs. Madden and is feeling a sense of frustration because she thinks middle school math needs
to be looked at and the district needs a computer science program. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the
computer science program is included in the curriculum priority. Mrs. Madden also stated she has not
seen data on whether Fundations was effective. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the data will be collected as
the students move through grade levels and how the students are achieving on MCAS. Asst. Supt. Dr.
Scollins stated the reading specialist did an amazing job pulling together a series of assessments and
compiled the data into a rubric which gave the administration a good sense of where the students are.
Mrs. Madden asked if that data is driving the decision of tiered instruction. Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins
stated it is and they are using DIBELS as a benchmark. Chairman Maher suggested Mrs. Madden should
follow up with a phone call with Asst. Supt. Dr. Scollins to discuss. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated this is not an
all-encompassing list of every priority. He stated this pertains more to the actual budget. Chairman
Maher suggested taking elementary math off the list. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the district is buying a
new program and it is a budget priority. Chairman Maher stated she believes we have a real problem in
middle school math, and it needs to be given some attention. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the major goals
for SEL is tiered support, cultural competency and assessments. Mrs. Madden asked if there is a new set
of frameworks for the arts. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated a new framework came out last year for the arts.
Supt. Dr. Sullivan discussed the priorities related to safety and facilities. Mr. Kearney stated he looked
forward to working with Supt. Dr. Sullivan on these priorities and mentioned the senate and legislatures
agreed to$800M for the Massachusetts School board. Chairman Maher stated this will start the process
for the Committee and the Committee will have their own budget message for the Town. Motion by Mr.
MacLellan to approve the FY21 Budget Priorities,seconded by Mr. Kearney. Roll Call Vote: Paul
Kearney-Aye,Ashley Colleary-Aye, Ellen Maher-Aye,Jennifer Madden—Nay, Craig MacLellan-Aye.
FY21 Budget Process Update-Mr. MacMillan updated the Committee members on the budget calendar.
Mr. MacMillan stated the principals and directors have sent their budget workbooks and program and
position changes. Mr. MacMillan is consolidating that information to put together a budget book which
will be presented to Finance & Facilities subcommittee. Mr. MacMillan stated he will give more of an
update on numbers at the Finance & Facilities meeting on Tuesday, November 26, 2019. Mr. MacMillan
stated there is a FY21 Budget Workshop with District Leadership Team on December 3, 2019 from
9:30am-12:30pm. Mrs. Colleary stated she will need to call into the meeting. Mr. MacMillan stated
materials will be circulated and there will be no voting at the workshop.
School Committee Comments&Communication-Mr. Kearney stated the Finance & Facilities
subcommittee meeting was great on November 19, 2019 and believes they accomplished a lot. Mr.
Kearney stated there is another budget meeting on Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 5pm. Mr. Kearney
stated he attended the musical "Alice in Wonderland" and stated Stephanie Moriarty and her staff did a
fantastic job. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated they put on a full production for the students which was a great
cultural building experience. Mrs. Colleary stated the Diversity Committee and South Shore Unity
Council will be hosting a free screening of"Dawnland" and a discussion to follow on November 25, 2019
at 6:00pm -8:00pm in the CHS Auditorium. Mrs. Colleary stated the Cohasset faith communities have
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been extremely supportive and are contributing the funds to bring the folks down from Maine to speak
at the event. Mrs. Colleary expressed her gratitude to them. Mrs. Colleary stated Safe Harbor Coalition
continues to do their parent coffees which is a great opportunity for parents to discuss issues coming up
at home. Mrs. Colleary stated she went to the first meeting of the Sheriff's Task Force. Mrs. Colleary
stated there were about 30 people including school committee members, school resource officers,
school nurses and wellness people. Mrs. Colleary stated they met in the Dedham House of Corrections
with an inmate who shared his story. Mrs. Colleary stated they discussed issues confronting students in
the county and ways to effect change in the communities. Mrs. Colleary stated if anyone had ideas to
present them to her to be shared with the Task Force. Mrs. Madden stated she attended the first Deer
Hill School Council meeting. Mrs. Madden stated Principal Sullivan reviewed the school improvement
plan which included an initiative called WIN and reviewed the roles involved. Mrs. Madden stated she
attended MASC and attended two presentations,the Dedham School Committee and Superintendent
spoke about their collective bargaining which was very informative. Mr. MacLellan stated the next
Superintendent Evaluation meeting will be in January. Mr. MacLellan stated he attended a couple of the
Osgood School Council. Mr. MacLellan stated highlights from the meeting is there is a new RC initiative
and the students are getting a new playground. Supt. Dr. Sullivan stated the actual diagram is up in the
lobby. Chairman Maher stated she and Mr. MacLellan met with Supt. Dr. Sullivan, Mr. MacMillan,
Principal Scott and Principal Mills regarding after school security. Chairman Maher stated the Security
sub-committee members are going to tackle a policy about after school security while Principal Scott
and Principal Mills work on procedures. Chairman Maher advised the Committee the FY21 Budget
Workshop with Leadership Team is December 3, 2019. She also stated the School Committee Goals
Progress Report will be presented at the next meeting on December 4, 2019 and advised the members
to be prepared to talk about progress. Chairman Maher advised the Committee members to
acknowledge emails with parents but to be cautious of sharing opinions in email as it could be construed
as a deliberation. Chairman Maher discussed the difference between advocating as a parent and as a
committee member. She advised the Committee members that if they would like to advocate on a
greater issue that will impact all of the children in a building, the issue needs to come to the Committee
table which will need to be approved by the Committee as an agenda topic. Chairman Maher stated the
Student Opportunity Act passed for$1.613 and is being passed to Governor Baker. She stated it's the
first major overhaul in education funding since 1993. Chairman Maher stated the NHS induction
ceremony is November 21 in the CHS Auditorium. Mr. Kearney stated he went to MASC and would like
all the members to go next year. He attended a class on how to bring communities together for school
projects. Mr. Kearney will summarize the materials and leave in the school office for all the members.
Approval of Minutes- Motion by Mr. Kearney to approve the minutes of 10/30/2019, seconded by Mr.
MacLellan and the vote was unanimous (5-0).
Topic not anticipated by the Chairman 48 hours in advance of the meeting-None.
Chairman Maher asked for a motion to go into Executive Session for Exemption#1 to discuss the
reputation,character, physical condition or mental health rather than professional competence of an
individual and Exemption#3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation with
union personnel. Motion moved by Mr. Kearney and seconded by Mr. MacLellan. Roll Call Vote; Paul
Kearney-Aye,Ashley Colleary-Aye, Ellen Maher-Aye,Jennifer Madden-Aye, Craig MacLellan-Aye.
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The Committee went into Executive Session at 10:55 p.m.
The Committee Exited Executive Session at 11:55 p.m.
Adjourn Opening Meeting-Motion by Mrs. Madden to adjourn the meeting at 11:56pm,seconded by
Mr. MacLellan and the vote was unanimous(5-0).
Documents used at the Meeting
Gift F-1
Draft FY21 Budget Priorities F-3
FY21 Budget Process Update F-4
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